"There was a shift": the developers of the Reb evaluated who wins the technology in Ukraine

Representatives of the KVERTUS, Piranha Tech and Dandelic Devices manufacturer have told focus what technologies are now being suited to the military at the front and which can change the course of war in Ukraine. Yaroslav Filimonov, CEO of Ukrainian company Kvertus, which produces radio electronic fighting, says that the situation with the HRS in Ukraine is in general.

Drones in the third year of a full -scale war will continue to reign in the sky, and the means of counteracting the forces of defense are not enough, it takes several times more means than it is now. The tasks that are performed with the help of drones are one of the priority, aircraft becomes more, new types appear.

"The main threat now is FPV-arose, the so-called drones-Kamikadze, but not only they are, because there are still reconnaissance drones, drones that perform ammunition discharges, drones . This applies to all equipment, that is, all jeeps, pickups that go to the front through volunteers, all that is centrally supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the National Guard, the border guards and so on.

Reb, because any conditional jeep without protection immediately becomes a goal for the defeat, "-said Yaroslav Filimonov. Unfortunately, no complex of Reb can protect the fighters on the battlefield 100 %, but it is better to protect it than its absence. The tools of the IR should be distinguished by the types of tasks they perform. Protection of a soldier in the trench is one story when it is more important to counteract Kamikadze drone and bombers with ammunition discharge systems.

The technique is extremely difficult to hit while driving, dropping the bombs, so FPVrons are more commonly affected. According to Yaroslav Filimonov, when compared to Russia, the overall situation on the battlefield is also interpolar on the situation with the IEC. The Russians have a lot, something better, and something worse.

According to his observations, the Russian Federation adapts to new conditions and scales the decision, there are no problems with financing, orders, launch of mass production. This applies to drones, the means of counteracting drones, and other technical and technological solutions. "You know, one captive Russian soldier said that they had two tanks: one went, but did not shoot, but the other shot, but did not go. At the same time, as if he was driving something and shooting something.

, the vast majority of nomenclature is a factory China, but there are many. Roman Ruban, the head of the R&D, the means of the IP "Kulbaba", believes that the balance of forces in the field of radio electronic struggle in the war in Ukraine is almost equal, neither in Russia nor in Ukraine there is no significant separation. The Russian Federation lost the advantage that had at the beginning of the invasion, but the Ukrainians could not escape.

"We have almost the same action field where there is a small backlash to the right to left, and within this elevator all move. The technology is one, the frequencies are one, the methods of interaction are one. To take, for example, the transport we bring gifts are drones. There are some restrictions on technology, and therefore we would say in the same conditions. Our drones and ribs, in the study of the trophy, "he commented.

According to Roman Ruban, it is now more important to supply the military as many simple remedies as possible than to create something expensive and high -tech, even if it is more effective: "If we cannot provide the front line with high -tech weapons, how can we dream of it? The whole line is my opinion. primitive, rapid inexpensive in the purchase and maintenance of UAV protection.

" Anatoly Khrapchinsky, Deputy Director of Piranha Tech, said that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is now actively changing frequency ranges and begins to use atypical frequency drones that were not there before. But Ukraine has remedies that allow you to suppress Russian UAVs in a wide range, both FPV reconnaissance and percussion. Some changes from the Russian Federation and its military are predicted, and Ukrainian engineers are ready to offer new decisions.

"Two and a half years of a full -scale war significantly moved us forward. We can develop and offer more interesting and high -tech ideas, but when we touch something more, then the funding is needed. In Ukraine, intellectual property in Ukraine is not perceived as something very important because everyone wants A cheap solution, for example, to counteract reconnaissance UAVs, detect intelligence or shock drones, " - said the expert.

According to him, now it is necessary to bring Ukrainian developments to a different level. R&D (research and development) are funded by the state only partially thanks to clusters such as Brave1 or grants. However, Anatoly Khrapchynsky calls for a system such as the American Agency for advanced defense research projects (Darpa), which would be able to systematize, analyze and predict any weapon on the collision line.

"In fact, what we are doing now, we close the needs of the military, but we partially look into the future, and offer certain solutions. These solutions need more funding. We close the active positions on the front line, what is needed to protect our military, but but Closing current tasks is not even more promising to watch. And changes in tactics, ”he emphasized on the principle: so we need these frequency, but in my opinion, we do not have enough far -sighted perspective. end user.

" Vadim Sukharevsky, Commander of the Forces of Unmanned Systems, noted that the command of the new troops will influence assistance with R&D Projects. According to Anatoly Khrapchynsky, the Ministry of Defense and the Brave1 platform are already actively helping to develop technologies, but we need to go on, create a large system where military analysts will work, capable of predicting and forming a need, giving the developers a clear task and tactical and technical characteristics.

"We, by the way, have received NATO codification, put all their weapons, realizing that there is no point in putting something classic, old that may not be used, we have already offered modified systems that provide a large number of different ranges. Documentation we had to submit. Product parameters that will be operated in the future for 5-10 years, and manufacturers will offer their solutions, "-added Piranha Tech.

There are now a large number of Western partners are ready to finance developments in Ukraine in various fields, including UAVs and HRs, and this is a very positive dynamics. A year ago, some Western companies offered Ukraine their technologies, now they are asked to supply them with remedies that have shown themselves well on the front lines and received positive feedback from the military.

"I want to move on because the threat of reconnaissance UAVs could be said even when we began to destroy Russian A-50 aircraft and radar. It was clear that they would actively connect the reconnaissance UAVs, and this would be the next call. There are things.

, which we need to do now, and thanks to the classroom analytical center we could become much more powerful, "-Yaroslav Filimonov assures that any means that prevent drones from flying to the target and performing tasks, interfere with the military. It is best to work those complexes that are codified, admitted to the defense forces and are in service, because they have passed all possible tests in combat, field and laboratory conditions. They really do their tasks as they need.

"We are constantly in close contact with representatives of the electronic struggle of all troops. Recently, for example, there was a military conference, which the General Staff conducted with all the chiefs of Reb of all troops of troops - they very clearly outlined the task for manufacturers. There were only KVERTUS and PROXIMUS. "I can't, which is super-supersponses, because any unit of the EWS performs its specific task and does it quite effectively," said Kvertus President.

Russia does not take quality, but quantity. Now the Russian army has many remedies on the line of collision, which prevents the defense forces from performing combat missions. According to Roman Ruban, the Ukrainian military is most interfered with "Suddents" - specialists of the Russian State Enterprise "Volunteer Battalion named after PA Sudoplatov". It has significant funding and powerful production, so it supplies masses of electronic wrestling masses massively of the Armed Forces.

"Everything that is associated with this manufacturer is quite strongly reflected in us. They are not different in technology, sometimes even much weaker than us in technology, but it is mass," the developer emphasized. Roman Ruban explained that developers are technologically limited by several parameters. First of all, it is "iron", that is, electronic chips that operate at a certain frequency.

In Russia, it is not possible to develop and produce their chips, so they must somehow produce electronics of foreign production. Second, engineers are limited by the frequencies of chip and antennas. In his opinion, there will be no technological breakthroughs in the field of the IP, because the main technologies were opened last year, but technological "landslides" can take place, as they have called them. For example, 9 months of war, both parties used 868-915 MHz for FPV.

Then there was a "technological shift" up to 950-980 MHz in the direction of increase and up to 730 in the direction of decrease in frequency. "Because of this, the Rebi could no longer create an interference. The technological shift happened, we adapted to the changes, too, because the transition happened not only on their side, but also ours. I know that the Armed Forces of the 730th frequency was used in three30 months after the start of a full-scale war.

Then there will be nowhere, and the next way is to replace the iron for the communication system. A great threat to Ukraine is posed by reconnaissance drones of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, such as "Orlan", Zala and SuperCam. The problem is that these UAVs fly very high, and even if they are able to inflame them in the sky, often there is nothing to neutralize. On the Ukrainian side, a turning point can be a new technology from Kvertus, which Yaroslav Filimonov told about focus.

It does not suppress the drone signals with "white noise", as 95% of all remedies of HR, but affect the communication protocol, which is not interference with signal transmission. "We are testing this new technology to see what it gives the results at what distance. Logic and algorithms in this technology are laid exactly that you can fight against the listed high -rise drones of the wing type. Not as terrible as the drone that gives it.

This will greatly strengthen our position and add capacity in combat missions. Anatoly Khrapchinsky says that in the fight against the reconnaissance drones of the Russian Federation should not rely exclusively on the means of radio electronic struggle, because it is only an auxiliary element. They need to use several types of detection, such as sound, visual and classic radar. All classic radar systems that were built before the war are mostly designed for great goals with high speeds.

"Therefore, you need to create a separate direction of radar: low -dimensional radar field. It will identify goals that are inconspicuous in the plane or fly at low speed," he suggested. Even after detection, the military decides whether to switch on the electronic wrestling, suppressing certain opportunities for drone to lose control. Sometimes UAV-reconnaissance should be destroyed physically with a small gun or missile or shock FPV, as is increasingly done lately.

Ukraine cannot spend expensive missiles of Western air defense systems against a regular reconnaissance drone, so there was a niche that needs to be filled. The Armed Forces requires inexpensive missiles capable of destroying such an aerial target or special FPV-pions. "All this needs to be translated into automatic mode, because in fact our mobile groups do incredibly work, but every serviceman who stands behind a gun or machine gun Browning becomes a ballistic calculator.

Only thanks to training he understands when to start shooting to intercept the air target. This should be done and can do the technique, "Anatoly Khrapchinsky said. Yaroslav Filimonov suggests that soon a "gamechair" in the war in Ukraine can be UAVs with machine vision, which automatically focus on a certain object and follow it even when they lose their connection with the operator.

Work on such drones is done on both sides, it is a very attractive technology that increases the edge of the drone work and the likelihood that it will fly to its goal, but the phenomenon is very far from being called it mass. "While these are isolated cases, technology is tested, information is collected and goes to revision. It can be massive potentially, which is why we are preparing for this," the expert says.

Drones with machine vision can be overcome, because they are now fixed for the target no further than 300 meters, more often than 200 meters. Such drones should be "stuffing" with the means of the Reb earlier-for 400-500 meters, and then they will simply not reach the area where they can glow to any objects.

"We are also working on the same technology that will interfere with machine giving, but I am not ready to announce here yet, because there are some hypotheses that we now check and confirm in this direction," Yaroslav Filimon admitted. A few more times in Ukraine, Russian drones with a cable coil, which is unwound 10 kilometers, have been observed. Kvertus believes that they can also be a problem for Ukraine.

Against them, the powerless Reb, because the whole flow of data, telemetry and electricity are transmitted through the cable, so you will not interfere or suppress them. "If this phenomenon is massive, then you will need to think at all of something else, perhaps on some impulse weapon, which will simply suppress all electronics and turn off the appliance, but it is a difficult technological solution that in the current conditions to work effectively, should ride.