The collapse of Russia is quite real: the collapse of empires is a normal historical process - Eugene Magda

Ukraine's more active position in support of local national movements and constant clarification, which will be the world without Russia, can accelerate this process. It is also worth emphasizing the genocide of the small peoples of the Russian Federation, which this state sends to fight in Ukraine, says the expert. Sanctions against the Russian Federation will be more powerful and effective if Ukraine is able to more actively argue about what the future world without Russia will be.

This is quite possible scenario, even without military intervention. This opinion was expressed in an interview with focus by the director of the Institute of World Policy Eugene Magda. He notes that despite Putin's statements about the "needlessness of the world without Russia," such a state formation as the USSR, even with more nuclear weapons, broke up through three republics and without much global excesses.

In the Russian Federation, a similar scenario is quite possible, the expert says, thanks to national opposition in the republics of the Federation. "It is necessary to support the right of peoples of the Russian Federation to self -determination, to work with the youth of these regions," Magda emphasizes. - Bashkortostan, Tatarstan, Republic of the North Caucasus are potential hot points and should be working with them as efficiently as possible.

" According to the expert, there are many national movements in Russia today, but today the historical idea is not very actively moving that all empires are sore or later falling apart. This is what we need to focus on establishing relationships with any peoples. "However, it is necessary to realize that such a collapse process is not so simple and it is not necessary to use warlike rhetoric, but the rhetoric of dismantling," says Eugene Magda.

"It is necessary to insist that the dismantling of the empire will lead to an increase in competition, because when the subjects of the Russian Federation get independence, then They will be interesting for many transnational corporations. " Ukraine should strengthen the issue of genocide of small peoples living in the Russian Federation, whom the state sends to the war and is killed in Ukraine, says expert.

Ukraine must create the appropriate background, and the imposition of sanctions or pressure is a parallel international issue. A complete conversation with Eugene Magda will soon be released on the Focus YouTube channel. We will remind, on January 29 in the Council of the Russian Federation called for preparation for a long war with the West after the end of the "hot phase" against Ukraine.