"Nobody will talk to Putin." Changing the Kremlin's rhetoric and the chances of a Russian surrender - interviews with a sprice

Volodymyr Ogryzko (photo: NV) in the Russian Federation is still assured that "special operation" is moving according to the plan, but the statements about the alleged interest and readiness of the Kremlin for negotiations are becoming more and more often. The position of the Ukrainian side was voiced by Mikhail Podolyak: "Negotiations are possible, but only on the conditions of Ukraine: after the return of territories and the liquidation of criminal enclaves.

" Video of the day on how the situation will develop, change in the Kremlin's rhetoric and chances for the surrender of the Russian Federation on the air of Radio NV told Vladimir Ogrizko, former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Head of the Center for Research of Russia. - Earlier, the Kremlin voiced only ultimatums, and now it is about some conditions.

What is evidenced by the change in the rhetoric of the Russian Federation and is there any reason to expect a recognition of the surrender of the Russian Federation? - It is unlikely that the current Moscow authorities will talk about surrender. It is known that they are tuned to "demilitarization, denacification" and the like, which [RF] have been actively promoted from the beginning. I do not think that she will be ready to go so far. To force her to do it is another matter.

It is still necessary to note the good news in [change] the position of our country. The same Podolyak, in March, told that we need to have Russia as a guarantee of our safety. Therefore, the evolution of views, thank God, happens. I even then said that it is absolute insanity and it could not even be a language. Ukraine will only have the best negotiating position when our armed forces force the enemy to get out of the territory of Ukraine.

Then in the negotiations about what Ukraine will be or how it will respond to Moscow, I think there will be no need. We must already set our requirements then, and they are obvious: Russia must compensate for the material damage caused to us, the leadership of this country should be facing the international tribunal and being punished. The direct executors of this genocidal policy of Russia against Ukraine should also be punished.

What happens to the Moscow state is already a matter of the future, and the subject of our discussion is not with the Russians, but with our international partners. - All this will happen after Putin is departing from power, is this script possible with him? In your opinion, are there any red lines for him that he will not cross? Returning all temporarily occupied Ukrainian territories will it be stopped or will it continue to send cannon meat here? - Nobody will talk to Putin.

Putin will be an exile, and this is not just my opinion. I very much doubt that he will fly to the meeting of G20 leaders. First, he is afraid of everything. And the guarantees of ensuring its safety are almost zero. Secondly, I do not imagine how representatives of the civilized world will sit with him at one table. His political career is coming to an end. And together with political and physical, because there is no other way in Russia. The king who loses ceases to be a king.

We need to think about further steps after Putin. What we will do when Russia is faced with a choice: continue to remain an empire or finally fall apart. The Russians were raised on slave, not at all liberal traditions. Therefore, in a very small historical perspective, the Russian Federation will cease to exist in the form in which it exists today.

- In your Twitter you paid attention to the statements of the Russian ambassador in the United States Anatoly Antonov, who says the need to stabilize Russian relations with the United States. At the same time, there was a statement of one of the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs from Moscow. It referred to the opposite: the United States was a step from being declared a conflict in Moscow.